and why it needs to survive and thrive, the two of you are showing why. i mean, bill, this is exactly why we need to keep local newspapers and television stations alive. >> exactly. you know, right now we're in event coverage and event coverage is all about what's happening now. but when these cameras go, when the other networks go, we're going to remain. the local newspaper, local television station. then we're going to trans -- we're going to begin telling the effects of these events and these effects are going to be long lasting and impact people's money, safety, health, community, and those are the stories with have to tell going forward. >> absolutely. thank you both for coming on. best of luck in the days ahead. >> thank you. we have more breaking news in the moment.