>> i'm pointing out it's not true. you seem to want it to be true that fox is questioning my reporting. >> rupert murdoch making the decision, that's what's so shocking. if that's true, that is such an egregious abuse of power by fox news, that's on the top ten list for history, you know what i mean? if bill hemmer is calling the white house ahead of time, that's egregious ethical lapse. >> brian, brian, give me a chance to talk, i'm the guest here. at any rate, the rupert murdoch thing is -- is -- i reported that at that point the decision desk got in touch with lachlan murdoch. he called his father. his father said to go with this report, obviously including quite a fetching obscenity directed at trump. >> so something like screw him but even stronger. so if rupert said screw him --