the regular rate, and then if you look at traumas and look at their long-term sequelae in years afterwards, they have done this in oklahoma city, francor instance. >> some of this is jarring to hear but sort of we know this to be true. the connection between the mind and what's happening there and our body. >> in terms of what to do for these people, different people need different things, and i know you and i have talked about this in the past, but i think the general rule is the best way to help people that have gone through something like this is to try to understand each individual and how they've reacted to it and try to tailor one's treatment, one's help to that person's way of coping. you know, what you're looking for is that you don't expect these people to be happy. you expect them to be heart broken, but you don't want to see them ceasing to function. you don't want to see them