i look at it this way, bruce always telling a lie. he's lived a lie his whole life about who he is. and i can't do that any longer. so can i take my ponytail out? why not. we're talking about all this stuff. let's take the damn ponytail out. >> my next guest has something in common with jenner. zoey is the first national transgender tv news reporter and you certainly have seen her work. the infamous o.j. simpson white ford bronco chase was caught on camera by a news chopper flown by zoey, then locally known as chopper bob. she's wript a piece for "the washington post" called transpeople need an icon but bruce jenner is the worst possible choice. zoey is here with me now. in "the post" yesterday you worried that the positive trajectory of the transgender movement was going to be derailed by bruce jenner.