>> they are 13, 9, 2. >> have you brooched the subject with them? i guess with the 13-year-old you have to? hey, mom has been a pin-up model? >> the thing is i was free to see their reaction. one day my 13-year-old said, oh, yeah, somebody pulled out naked pictures of you. it was a nonevent. and then she was discussing something else. the current generation is desensitized. >> what about her friends? maybe among the guy friends your daughter is going to be none as having the hot mom? >> it doesn't seem to be all that interesting to them. it is kind of disappointing to me. i thought it would be shocking. kind of amazing. >> what i am hearing from victoria, you think this is a smart move from "playboy". it is about going after market share. right now they can't compete with. and that it will work. >> it is about rebranding their