fact, thailand, what do you make of that? >> look, this is one more piece to the puzzle. because, for instance, if you want to disappear, you turn your transponder off and you do it when you move from one air traffic control zone controlled by malaysia to vietnam air traft control. you then turn to the west, you then dissend, there's various man offeuvers that the plan mad. the fact that it tried on avoid the radar adds more weight to the theory that it was a very deliberate action by someone who was very experienced. either the pilot or someone else who was very experienced flyer. who knew what they were the doing. it's not an airplane out of control. it's a very deliberate course of action. >> all right, jeffrey, thomas, many thanks for joining us from