level of cooperation that they are getting from russian law enforcement. moreover, they are saying themselves, even in public. >> and yet, when one u.s. official tells us that they learned about the threat that the so-called black widow, or one or two of them, had gotten into the sochi perimeter, gotten past the sochi perimeter. but they learned that from tv rather than from any exchange of information with the russians. it just sounds like there's some tension there. >> i don't see any tension. i didn't feel any tension, first. secondly, i'm not sure that i can confirm the risk of a threat of the kind you talked about. there was fortunately some notice given that was circulated as a kind of look-out information. doesn't necessarily mean that there is an immediate threat. >> let me just try to clarify -- >> which is very normal precaution thing for law enforcement to do. >> right.