by imagery that, at the moment of the shootdown, we detected a launch from that area and our trajectory shows that it went to the aircraft. we also know to a certainty that the social media immediately afterwards saw reports of separatists bragging about knocking down a plane, and then the so-called defense minister self-appointed of the people's republic of donetsk, igor strelkov, posted a social media report, bragging about the shootdown of a transport plane, at which point, when it became clear it was civilian, they pulled down that particular report. we know from intercepts, voices which had been correlated, intercept that we have, to those are, in fact, the voices of separatists, talking about the shootdown of the plane, they have shot down some 12 planes, aircraft, in the last months or