>> i think they has been. >> not the kurds. >> the kuds forces. >> that was not the most gotcha like. he rattled through a list of names. >> he rattled through a list of names and said do you know who these people are. >> so you think this was a gotcha interview? >> it's very legitimate subject matter, but the way it was done is problematic. you asked a question something along the lines of who will it matter to? not to the average voter in a primary. that's what matters to trump and the other 16 candidates. a question like that, i will take you back. it will get a newt gingrich-like response in a debate. >> right. >> the candidate will win that exchange with the voters. panels like this will say that