collect, retain and analyze all machines, equipment, electronically stored information and material records relating to the 2020 election. you are a west point grad. you are close friends with the former trump defense secretary mike esper. what's your reaction to hearing that? >> yeah, so, dana, look, i have not seen the document, i have not seen -- i have not even seen the article, i heard it this morning. so i don't really know the details of it. obviously, look, as you described, that that's troubling, but i don't know why they were -- you know, what the underlying issue was in terms of taking the voting machines out of the control of the states. perhaps it was the fact that they were -- the administration felt that they were not going to be correctly held in the chain of custody such that they would be preserved for future examination. i don't know. but, as you said, it was a draft, it was never executed, it was never sent around.