belarus, russia or even from georgia. they will consolidate what they have in donbas and crimea and eventually will probably still attempt to take kyiv and encircle kyiv in the future? beth sanner, do you agree with general clapper about what the russians are trying to signal, potentially trying to signal about limiting themselves to the donbas region on the east, meaning do you think he's looking for an off-ramp or is this a misdirection? >> it could be eventually an off-ramp, a path to some sort of negotiated solution but i don't think they're anywhere near that yet and there is a reason that they haven't pulled forces back from kyiv. they have to keep pounding the cities in order to try to force capitulation, but at the same time there are limitations on how much they can get out of these reinforcements. they have lost a lot of people so if you take any of these statistics, there aren't 15,000