measure of candidate enthusiasm, donald trump, 49% of donald trump's supporters said they were extremely enthusiastic. and for haley that number was 9%. and you have to ask yourself if you're not terribly enthusiastic, are you going to drag yourself out on a night like this. and second point is that half of her support comes from independents and democrats who say they're going to vote in the republican caucuses. are they going to drag themselves out on a bitterly cold night to sit through two hours of -- of discussion to cast a vote for nikki haley? it may happen. it could happen. but it -- it looks worrisome to me from her perspective. and if she doesn't beat desantis in iowa, he'll go on and there will be more candidates in -- in new hampshire. he may take some votes from trump there. maybe that will help her. but the perception will be that