everybody, and honestly, it would be sapore er safer for a people coming, because they're going through things in mexico and the cartels that are not good and being treated very poorly. >> ron desantis, stay warm in iowa and have fun out there. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. my next guest is no stranger to the iowa caucuses. senator bernie sanders, independent from vermont, joins me next on his new standoff with the biden white house. and did he just take the first step towards launching a third party challenge? i'll ask republican larry hoe dw -- hogan coming up. 123450