he got a bong and he got this other kind of thing that's like a wooden piece that you smoke out of. so just me and him, i'm keeping score, he blazes up the first one, i blaze up one. before you know it, it's four things being passed around while we're playing dominos. you would have thought we were octopuses, because we were moving so much. >> at some point your conversation must have reached the level of enlightenment. what were you talking about? >> when i'm around willie or a great musician that's still relevant and still doing it, i always pick they brain. i asked him what was he doing when he made "on the road again," and what was he thinking when he wrote "you're always on my mind." >> that's one of the greatest songs ever. >> i'm like i want to know that. what were you smoking when you made that, willie? i asked questions like that. >> was the answer satisfactory?