even know. i didn't check. i only got the idea 48 hours ago. >> knowing you there will be a way you'll make money. >> i've always felt like you have to learn to give -- >> it's not easy. >> you're not born as a giver. you're born pretty selfish, you know. people love money, it doesn't matter how much you got. you want more. look at the ballplayers, look at bill gates, he feels like he can't get by you know. >> my name is bill gates. i've known ted turner for about 40 years. i think i got called like the day before, and there was even a period of time after the announcement where he was kind of criticizing even warren and i by name. >> bill gates could give ten times more tomorrow -- he's got a whole lot of money. he can buy and sell both of us, you know, and then keep the change. >> there was some good natured criticism there, which i wanted because later we'd come together, have this initiative