are. >> i think that he felt threatened that wagner group will be integrated into ministry of defense, and then he will lose his power base. he will lose his business. he also witnessed that a lot of ukrainian nationals who were used by the kremlin in 2014 and 2015 when russia launched its first stage of war against ukraine and donbas were later eliminated and killed. he knows that once wagner is fully under ministry of defense control, he himself is useless. so i see that this is an attempt to remain important, flu influential, and also liked. >> it's a fascinating point. i think what's interesting we saw him being, you know, cheered as he left rostov-on-don by some people at least. how much does his message of anger at the elites resonate,