sorry. that's another party. these were people that didn't have as much success in mainstream clubs because mainstream clubs had mainstream comedy. they didn't necessarily go for weird. so they started their own rooms with their own crowds. i'm not telling the story for any kind of shock value or anything like that. i'm just telling the story. the original standup from the late 70s was all set up punchline set up punchline. that's all anybody was doing. and the alternative comedy scene suddenly was all this personal story telling. there's five kids in our family. i'm the oldest and my brother who's the fourth child, got limp cancer. hold for laughs and you could just be talking about what happened that day. it was like somebody coming up and reading their diary. i'm sorry, i didn't study theater for 12 years, just so i could go ramble. no we kind of free formed it and more of a