family, and she was coming to our birthday parties and christmases. >> we think it's one of the most optimistic things in the health care system out there. >> you talk to george schultz and he's a very impressive man, and i was impressed he adopted her like a daughter and really believed in her. >> from the outside, your thinking is, wow, what a board. it's just really impressive. >> and i talked to most of them. they were impressed -- really impressed with her. >> general mattis, i assume on the record, unless you tell me not and then i will shut off the recorder. when you think of elizabeth, what are the first words that come to mind? >> first is integrity, confidence, and the confidence is focused, human rights in the most classical sense of what human rights are about, and all of a sudden you have the ability to know if somebody is ill or not, literally within minutes of