santorum versus romney. i've known a lot of these gingrich people for years. they're friends of mine. we started to have a discussion of what if we could get a unified, conservative ticket? and the ticket wasn't necessarily santorum and gingrich. it was santorum and getting everybody from michele bachmann and perry and gingrich and even sarah palin to start coalescing behind rick santorum and starting to campaign with him. and then the gingrich people said very clearly, look, newt still has hopes of winning either alabama and mississippi. they're desperate states for him. he has to win them. santorum won both those states as you probably remember. >> yes i do. >> and the discussions intensified where there was some very serious talk about newt getting out, supporting rick santorum, and doing this sort of conservative unit campaign. in the end, you know, i got called and said that newt thought it over and decided that he wanted to concentrate on the states he thought he could win and let rick concentrate on the