for what? >> well, he didn't seem -- she didn't seem to fit in very well with the military's culture sometimes. people seemed to see her as vulnerable, she was short statured and she did seem to have difficulty relating to other people there. as it came out in the trial, her co-workers testified that she often cared about her doing her job much more than others seemed to. she often made it a goal to go above and beyond, and she might have been bullied for being effeminate and still at the time under doesn't ask/don't tell, being openly gay, let alone being trans, would have meant being separated from the army. >> do you think this has anything to do with what happened with wikileaks or is it separate and apart from the situation? >> i think it directly related