things differently online, but the conduct can still be visible by the public, by people like this, and hackers are definitely changing the game now. when we used to see hacking stories -- go ahead. >> it just visiting the site? or is it people who have actually interinformation who are compromised? >> if you just visit the site, you see a screen that kind of gets you to try to sign up. all things you are seeing are people who actually took the time to sit down, punches in on their keyboards their information. one thing that is unfortunate here, which i think we should make clear, you can put in anybody's e-mail address, and it doesn't require you to confirm it. if your address went in there, you wouldn't get a notification, at least in the past saying, hey, is this really you? because what if somebody is trying to use your address to create an account? >> that's a fair point. dr. ludwick, they went after