said go out and ask. and we took seven or eight people and we stopped them and said what can you tell me about the former archbishop now pope? before they answered they went into tin shacks and wooden sacks they called homes and found these prized photos that showed the new pope baptizing their kids confirming their kids sitting in the living room when the husband died because that's where he spent his time. actually that parish in this slum had a mass to celebrate his election as pope. and the pastor invited everyone to bring their pictures. thousands of people showed up with pictures of him in their private homes, in the streets at their celebrations. it was like a living photo album. so this is not some faux pr exercise. it's who the man really is. >> and he's continued that even as pope if not living in the papal apartment that his predecessor had lived in living obviously within the vatican but in a much what is it a three-room apartment? a much simpler apartment.