president which zelensky wanted to show the ukrainians he was serious and the russians. here is gordon sondland making that point. >> was there a quid pro quo? as i testified previously with regard to the requested white house call and the white house meeting, the answer is yes. >> that's a first person witness. had conversations with president trump. there was a quid pro quo, he said. >> the rest of the context is that is based on his conjecture, speculation, his assumption. the direct evidence in the record, he said he asked the president on the telephone, september 9th i think it was, what do you want from ukraine. the president said i want nothing, i want no quid pro quo. i want zelensky to do the right thing. again, he wanted to ensure zelensky would be the reformer to clean it up, if we're going to spend precious taxpayer dollars there, they'll be spent well. >> after the whistle-blower came forward, aid was released, and