recognize facts as being something that are important to any decision they make. the news that manu just broke that joni ernst, senator from iowa, doesn't want to hear from witnesses and something the house should have done is stunning considering she has a tough re-election and in what is a swing state and she's saying that she'll be part of the no nothing caucus in the senate. that is stunning and disturbing. but the real question is there any information that could come out that would open or change republicans' minds. that itself in answer seems to be no and that is disturbing just from a reason together on behalf of the republic level. >> and manu reporting that not wanting to hear from mulvaney or bolton and they are quick to jump on the emails look at this in connection of the dots and if you step back for a minute, it doesn't necessarily say x happened and there are redactions and that is what the mindset was and this is what forced it to happen and this is exactly how it played out. >> but i think if you did, to