i don't think it could've been handled in a way that -- we're going to go back in hindsight and look, but the idea that somehow there is a way to have gotten out without chaos ensuing, i don't know how that happens. i don't know how that happened. >> so for you that was always priced into the decision? >> yes. >> always priced into the decision. cnn's kylie atwood is at the state department. we're going to start with cnn's chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins. this doesn't exactly jive with what biden has been saying in recent weeks because he has acknowledged that they did not expect the afghan military to fall as quickly as they did. >> yeah, jake. i'm a little surprised by that last comment there saying that he did not believe there could be a drawdown that would happen without chaos ensuing. because what we have heard from the president and his top national security advisers for the last several months and especially over the last several days is that they have been planning for every contingency for the last several months