want a cold war. and that is probably the reason that he didn't mention china by name, because that would have created the assumption that if you're calling out china, there is this cold war that some say is already emerging, whether the biden administration wants to acknowledge it or not. >> absolutely right. kylie's got it just right. in public no one wants to use the cold war terminology. they will say, look, this is different. the cold war was a military competition with the soviet union. we had minimal economic interchange with them. with china we've got a big economic interchange. all that does is make this form of cold war more complex, harder to get into and harder to get out of and in many ways more dangerous. >> gloria, i don't know how much you think biden was playing to that domestic audience. >> always. >> which doesn't necessarily care that the french or mad.