a national covid-19 coordination committee to solve the problem. their solution was a gas pipeline. that's how they were going to solve the covid-19 problem. and that's when i realized, oh, hang on a second, maybe our government actually doesn't work for us. maybe they work for someone else. and it makes complete sense. currently, as of actually tomorrow, one of the big parties -- sorry, jake. >> we only have a little bit left. i want to ask you this last question, i know you're a podcaster so you could talk literally four hours straight, so apologies. but in recent years australia has seen historic droughts and devastating fires, it's hard to forget the illness of burnt koala bears with no food or water because the forests burned to the ground. i guess i just find it so surprising, given all the