i went to dr. conley, and chief of staff meadows and said when was his first test? and i was told we're not revealing that for hipaa reasons. that's what i was given for our chain of command. full stop, this demonstrates a flagrant lack of regard for public health and for the well-being of others. at this time in the white house, i had staffers who were pregnant. i had one who is a multi-time cancer survivor. plenty of people in the west wing over 65. we could have killed one of our colleagues and instead they decided to not tell anyone, putting every one of us at risk. >> you didn't know is the point? >> absolutely not. no, no. >> dr. reiner, we don't know which kind of test the president took when he got that positive test but the second test was an antigen. is a negative test from an antigen enough to clear someone who previously tested positive to go back into the public? >> no. but we know that the white house was relying heavily on abbott's rapid molecular pcr test.