that point he was talking about $1.75 trillion. right now he said, quote, we are starting from scratch. he said it'll be a, quote, clean sheet of paper to move ahead. i asked him where he needs to be on this. he said first they need to deal with inflation, then deal with covid. then we need to get our fiscal house in order before we move ahead. so, jake, getting to a deal with joe manchin is going to be incredibly difficult as we get closer and closer to the election as well. >> all right. manu raju on capitol hill, thanks so much. let's bring in democratic congressman pramila jayapal chair of the progressive caucus. thank you so much for joining us. let's start where manu just ended. senator manchin one of the democratic moderates in the senate who held up the change to the filibuster that would have gotten election reform bills passed is unwilling to say if he would support a scaled down version of biden's build back better plan without the child tax credit. manchin said from the beginning possible annual extensions to