got hoead coaching jobs. the owners are willing to go outside the traditional pipeline to hire white coaches. joe judge, cliff kingsbury, josh mccown has been a finalist for many of these jobs that had very little coaching experience. so i think we have to be honest about what the problem is. the problem isn't the system or the institution. the problem is the biases inside the people who make the decisions and who have the ultimate power. we can't blame roger for this. he is doing as much as he can. the people above him, the guys who own the teams have to confront themselves and the way they view the candidates out there and make honest choices. not the choices that are skewed by their own biases. >> it's interesting. a good point. we like to think of roger goodell being in charge but he's not. he can't make anybody who is a