>> we published on a wednesday. by friday night, they tried to turn the guns on the guardian. the murdoch company came out and accused us of deliberately lying to the british people. >> which is a very serious charge to make against the fellow journalists. >> so you have the hacking scandal bubbling away with the murdochs trying to keep a lid on the boiling pot, and nick davis raising the heat underneath it. and then you have james with this really huge career-defining bskyb deal. so it's almost like this absolute sort of powder keg waiting to blow. and yet, it doesn't blow. yet.