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liberation because people tend to conflate sex and women and for people, read "men." >> i would like to ask, what would it be like to have the initiation and consummation of a sexual contact so that now we can get down to the particulars of the evening. what would it be like after liberation, ideally? >> why do you ask those questions? >> because i don't find it anywhere in the literature. i don't -- >> why do you expect to find it anywhere in literature? >> i really don't know what women are asking for. suppose i wanted to give it to them. >> the liberties they're asking for, honey, is not for you. >> i think if you didn't look at the women's movement favorably it would be very easy, in fact, you might be inclined to lump it in with sexual revolution as saying, the agenda is the same. because then it just makes women look sort of unstructured and wanton and running around just looking for the next person to bed.