general for ten years and has not listened to the government accountability office for ten years because if you did, you would have known about these scheduling problems, wait times and inability -- >> drew, let me say that i have knowledge during the course of this hearing that i think v.a. made assumptions that our data were accurate. i think that we assume that the oig and gao information, patient concerns were exceptions rather than rules. i think knowledge that we have perhaps elevated performance majors to goals, that we need to improve that system. >> wolf, dr. lynch went on to say that he, the current administration and general shinseki can lead the v.a. out of this mess and give him a chance. >> drew, stand by for a moment. i want to bring in representative jeff miller. he's the chairman of the house committee on veterans affairs. congressman, thanks very much for joining us. let me get right to a potential criminal issue.