it's one round trip. he starts in the -- in the early afternoon. washington -- excuse me. new york washington back to new york. so it's one round trip. >> how much time is between that? >> how much time is twheenbetween that? we will have his schedule i don't have it immediately in front of me. i've often said we are here to get information that will go away with the passage of time. his schedule we can do things like next week. we want to do train interviews and things like that. yes, sir. >> what else could explain acceleration of the train? >> other than human input, what else could explain the acceleration of the train? the train is the train does not have i flew airplanes a long time. we had airplanes with automatic throttles. the trains do not have automatic throttles. it's a manual input. we're going to be through the -- through the event recorder,