told. that meeting is now finished and the families have been kept separate from the media. as you see the media packed behind me, there's a press conference going on at the moment repeating quite a lot of what we heard in jakarta arta. that was a closed door meeting. glancing at the families they were grim-faced not showing overt signs of emotions. and even when that meeting broke up, we didn't see and i certainly wasn't aware, and i was talking to people a couple of airasia people who came out and said there weren't any big emotional scenes there. but this is a devastating time for them. that news came from jakarta, the plane may be on the bottom of the sea. that is not confirmed. that is conjecture. it's based on where the plane last made contact, where its coordinates were when it last made contact.