>> would you be able to have the same size marijuana operation now under dave? >> no, dave don't put up with that. right now criminal activity isn't even a part of club life. >> why do you think you're so often referred to as a gang? >> well, it's not always been kosher, you know. always some little bumps in the road here and there and right away they have to label us as a gang. >> one similarity you might have with gangs is there are wars over territory, like for example, if some hell's angels came into this bar, what would happen? >> maybe nothing. maybe they might buy me a beer, you know, but i wouldn't take it. i would probably spit it back in there and give it to them and say here is your beer, thanks but no thanks. [ laughter ] >> which would probably start something. >> hey, might happen. but i don't -- they wouldn't come in here, though, i don't think they would. it wouldn't be for their best interest. >> there is clearly some hostility between the mongols and the hell's angels. i wanted to figure out what started it and how serious it is now.