walking down the aisle in a tight dress and my attention went to somewhere else. >> years later when dee meth vee they quickly fell in love and became parents. even then vee realized she didn't want to give up on her interest in women and instead wanted to share it with her husband. >> who brought up the idea of swinging? >> me. >> this one here. after we moved to georgia we put the kids to sleep watching hbo late night and stumbled upon real sex, it was an episode about swinging. they were having fun and talking. after the show was over, hey, babe, what do you think about doing the swinging thing? >> i was like, listen, i enjoyed you and love you and how about we spice it up a little? he's like -- >> is this a trick? >> you were pretty receptive to it? >> i was, i was, i was open to