kid. what were you like as a little kid? [laughter] >> i really did not think the same way as other kids. and i have always kind of have my own version of reality. >> how old are you? >> and 13. >> and when did you get started with coding and stuff? >> i guess november of last year i started to blog. then answer to my podcast in march. >> did you know anything about development or design? >> i do freelance graphic and web design for about a year now. >> when i was 12 i started a video podcast and doing some freelance web design for local small businesses around oklahoma city. that kind of just escalated to allow for all things kind of taken design. >> and they are gonna start a