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CNN CNN This Morning July 7, 2024

Third hour. This is we made it through the stretch hour. The power hour. The power hour. The seventh thing inning str were so glad everybody is with us this morning. Im glad to be next to you too. It is going quick. It is already 8 00. Speak for yourself. I did two hours and now it is three. Im so glad to be here with you guys because you guys mean, i think we all help each other make each other better and we hope we make you better at home. There is a lot to get to this morning. Welcome to the program. Were going to give you some news now including these baseless Conspiracy Theories circulating about the attack on paul pelosi. Were going to debunk them one by one in a cnn fact check coming up shortly. Midterm elections, were one week exactly away, but a lot of votes already cast in early voting. Republican leaders gaining confidence that this is going to cut their way. Chris sununu of New Hampshire running for reelection, hell join us this hour to talk about his partys prospects. And another big question is what are nasa and spacex up to today . The classified mission that is set to be under way very soon, well tell you more. Well get to our lead story now. Well gbegin with the spread of misinformation en the attack of paul pelosi, the House Speakers husband. Some of the loudest voices on the internet have been pushing some of these baseless Conspiracy Theorys to millions of their followers on social media. But new revelations from the San Francisco District Attorney put those Conspiracy Theories to rest. Yes, it appears as though this was based on his statements and comments that were made in that house during his encounter with mr. Lopelosi that this was politically motivated. Joining us to separate the fact from the fiction is cnn reporter and fact checker mr. Daniel dale. Good morning, daniel. Thank you. This is a very important story because there are tons of Conspiracy Theories out there. Please, what did you find in your fact check . Don, it is rare you see a Conspiracy Theory debunked this definitively, this fast. The central claim of the Conspiracy Theory that has been circulated by elon musk and others online is that paul pelosi invited the attack near the home, that they had some sort of salacious relationship that went bad. Thats complete fiction, according to local and federal Law Enforcement and the official fbi complaint says according to the attacker himself, the fbi says in that document that the attacker himself told police in a recorded interview that he broke into the pelosi home by breaking a glass door using a hammer, that he surprised mr. Pelosi, told mr. Pelosi to wake up, the complaint says pelosi told 911 later a Police Officer he didnt know the man and heres what San Francisco police chief bill scott told cnn yesterday. There is absolutely no evidence that mr. Pelosi knew this man. Matter of fact, the evidence indicates the exact opposite. The exact opposite is what he said. Daniel, some right wing figures including actually elected people in important office, like Lieutenant Governor of north carolina, have been promoting this claim that the attacker was found by police in his underwear. It is not true. Where did that come from . So, poppy, this came from a report from a local tv station, a fox affiliate, except that tv station retracted the claim, issued a correction saying pretty plainly, it is just not true. And if thats not sufficient for people, take a look again at the fbi complaint. It says the Cops On Scene found a bunch of stuff, including a cell phone and cash in the intruders shorts pocket. So this man was wearing clothes. Now, this one may have been based on some vague Police Language early on, but the fbi complaint makes totally clear there was one hammer, people have been saying there may have been two hammers, they both had hammers going at each other. The fbi complaint says the attacker told police he brought a hammer, he used a hammer. At the time the police arrived, mr. Pelosi had grabbed on to that hammer for obvious defensive reasons and was hit with it. And, daniel, you know, youve seen these efforts to distance this attack from people in the political right. What do we know about David Depapes potential motives . I think we should take it from this man himself, the fbi says in the complaint the attacker told police he broke into the pelosi home over his animosity toward the democratic party. That his aim was to hold Speaker Nancy Pelosi hostage because he viewed her as the lead er of a pack of democratic liars. He was thinking about breaking her kneecaps as a message to other members of congress. We know he had been promoting right wing Conspiracy Theories online. These are allegations from the feds, from local cops. We know this man has a curious history, dabbling in all sorts of ideas. It is very possible there are relevant things we dont yet know about the attack, the man involved. Im not saying the word of Law Enforcement should ever be taken on the gospel unquestioned word. But think it is clear, we can say confidently at this point, that the conspiracy narrative is bunk it just garbage. Conspiracy theories around the world before the truth gets out of bed. Thank you. Nancy pelosis democratic friend and colleague says the escalating rhetoric by some on the right is to blame for many of these dangerous Conspiracy Theories. Listen to this. This is something that has gone that is truly out of control. And i dont even know if lowering the rhetoric is enough. It is an incredible cancer that if we dont Start Holding people accountable for their words, then were going to see more of this. And it sends shivers up and down my spine. That was democratic congresswoman Jackie Speier of california. Lets go to manu raju for the campaign fallout. Good morning, manu. Reporter good morning, yeah. The political fallout among republicans, youve seen them divided over how to respond here. Mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, the senate side, was quick to condemn the attack at the pelosi household, calling it horrifying. But others likened it to other political attacks, other Violent Attacks against republicans. Then youve seen some push those baseless Conspiracy Theories with no fallout whatsoever. This comes as nancy pelosi has been absolutely demonized by republicans for the better part of the past two decades in the republicans quest to battle over the house and certainly the fight right now to take back power in the house. The other big fallout and the big question among members themselves and questions that theyre confronting is the Security Situation that they face on the Campaign Trail, and also out in public as we know that only the leadership is the one who received the Security Detail that nancy pelosi had, but it does not extend to rank and file members and it certainly does not extend to Family Members themselves. So as we look at how the Political Landscape may be affected by this, members themselves are assessing their own personal safety. Right now, there is a review among Law Enforcement agencies within the United States senate and the house to determine exactly whether to change the Security Protocol for these members as we are seeing these threats of violence escalate. While we have you, it seems like president obama is working overtime, not in office, making sure democrats hold seats and gain seats. Hes back on the Campaign Trail today. How much of a difference do you think he can make in the final push, the final week . Reporter that is the big question here. There have not been that many surrogates, democratic surrogates on the Campaign Trail. President biden for one has not been out on the Campaign Trail. We have seen barack obama, the biggest one here. And this is such a significant race. The democratic incumbent, first term senator going against a republican, former attorney general, in a race that poll after poll has shown is essentially a dead heat. Republicans stand a serious chance of picking up this seat, more than 100 million has been spent on the air alone in this state between labor day and until now. And what Catherine Cortez mat so said is what she hopes is that barack obama will help juice democratic turnout. Listen. What do you hope that former president obama brings tomorrow to help you in your final days in this campaign . Were going to have a number of people coming in to help get out the vote. Theyre absolutely welcome. My focus are nonnevadans and getting out and talking to nevadans and the importance of voting and turning out those voters. Reporter looking at the calendar, you see how busy things have been for barack obama. Hes been in georgia, michigan, wisconsin. Hell be in nevada later today. And then arizona and pennsylvania. All those key states with those key senate races, barack obama trying to make the difference. He seems to be enjoying some of his Campaign Stops and bringing a lot of theyre still fine. That happened. Manu, thank you. That was the clip of the weekend. Manu in vegas. For more on all of this, we want to bring in New Hampshires republican governor chris sununu, who is up for reelection. Governor sununu, thank you for joining us on our first show. I want to start, though, with, you know, i know youve been talking about inflation and how you believe that is such an important factor and how voters in your state are making a decision in this election. But i want to start with whats happening with House Speaker pelosi and this attack on her husband. I know you said that your sympathies are with them. There was this moment last night with the republican candidate for governor in arizona, kari lake, she weighed in on what happened to Speaker Pelosi. It is not impossible to protect our kids at school. They act like it is. Nancy pelosi will, shes got protection when shes in d. C. Clearly her house doesnt have a lot of protection. What is your response to not just what kari lake said, but also the laughter from the crowd, the moderator . Yeah, look, i would just say anyone who is not taking what happened to Speaker Pelosi and her husband extremely seriously with all the sympathies that it deserves, there is just no place for it. This is serious. Us as political figures, we can talk about issues, we can defend ourselves. Most of our families doesnt ask for them. The political rhetoric over the past few years has been really escalating. Lines have been crossed. New lines have been drawn, inappropriately. And it is scary. It is a very scary thing and very scary time. So, you know, this isnt an isolated incident, unfortunately. We have the shooting of Steve Scalise, gabby giffords, the Assassination Attempt on Justice Kavanaugh. These lines are moving on both sides. This isnt Just One Party or the other. This is a cultural phenomenon that is not good for america. It is one of the bigger crises were seeing in that folks think that certain things are appropriate when they really arent. We have to take it seriously. I think it youre right that it is escalating. I think it is unfair to say on both sides. This is not the same on democratic side as it is on the republican side, especially when you consider you say it has been escalated over the last couple of years. That has been a direct contribution from the former president. Treating people harshly and his language around violence and the attack on the capitol, the assault on the capitol and encouraging people toward violence. So, listen, you can say, you know, it is the sort of both sides, but really republicans arent speaking out for the most part in a vehement way. You have youve got senator mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy, but for the most part, silence, very muted from republicans about what is happening with violence and don jr. Tweeting horrific things. Why dont people get in front of the cameras, more republicans, and say this is awful, this should not happen, this is what republicans shouldnt be doing, i dont want my party defined by this bs . Why doesnt that happen . Well, look, i think look, i think youre absolutely right. As leaders, whether youre a governor or president or an elected official in washington, everyone should be speaking out about the horrific actions of what happened. Again, the Steve Scalise shooting, Justice Kavanaugh was almost assassinated outside of his home, so there is danger on both sides. Governor, i dont disagree with you. Let me tell you the difference here. When it is on the democratic side and it does happen, people say it is wrong, it should not happen and they denounce it. Democratic leaders come out and do it immediately. Republicans dont do that. Are they afraid of don jr. . Are they afraid of donald trump . Are they afraid to come out, theyre going to lose votes . Im being honest. That is the truth. Go back and look at the evidence. So it is not the same thing. Look well, look, im here telling you as one of the leaders of the republican party, you denounce it wholeheartedly. Of course. A lot of folks have. I get it. And, you know, whatever the issue and the action of the day is, unfortunately this week it happened to Speaker Pelosi and her husband and her family, thats real. And does that mean it is going to stop today . Probably not unfortunately, right . It is going to potentially continue. As a whole, the media, the social media, elected officials, everyone within their Community Needs to bring that temperature down. Governor, thank you again for joining us for this really important conversation this morning. Youre right, you mentioned elected officials. We know that this suspect, we know that depape hosted, mentioned many times Conspiracy Theories including about the 2020 election. You are supporting, youre going to vote for the republican nominee for senate in the state of New Hampshire, don bolduc, who keeps denying the results of the 2020 election. He did it again a few weeks ago and said i cant say whether it was stolen or not. Hes perpetuating lies that are dangerous, that become these Conspiracy Theories. How do you square the two . This is a guy who called you a Conspiracy Theory extremist. Why is he worthy of your vote . Yeah, so, look, at the end of the day, the election was not stolen and the vast majority of people he keeps saying it could have been. No, he three weeks ago came out three weeks ago came out and questioned it again. Thats all im saying. Yeah. Yeah, and what im saying is when it comes down to voting for an individual, voters, whether as a me or the 1. 4 million other people in the state of New Hampshire, theyre going to go cast the vote on a variety of issues. We might disagree on what happened in 2020 or folks are focusing on the Conspiracy Theories around the 2020 election. At the end of the day, the vast majority of voters, independent voters who havent made up their mind, theyre voting on inflation, theyre voting on the cost of goods, theyre voting on not being able to make their mortgage or find housing. Those are things drastically impacting their family today that have been driven by very bad policies out of washington, d. C. On the democrats side and so therefore not just myself but a lot of other folks will be voting for republicans come november. It is not just a one issue, you cant say, well, based on that one issue we vehemently disagree, so we shouldnt be casting our vote. Youre arguing that what youre hearing from voters in your state is that what theyre paying at the supermarket, at the gas station is more important to them. And thats whats factoring into their vote. You know, youre supporting don bolduc the republican as poppy was mentioning there in this race. If hes elected, are you confident that if he goes to washington that republicans are going to have a plan to fix inflation . Because thats been the pushback we have heard from democrats, from the white house, is they say republicans keep talking about inflation, but theyre not so sure they have a plan to fix it. Do you think that they do . One thing im really confident of is if you send the same people back to washington, you aint going to get a different result. Not even close. The fact you have folks that want to step up, that arent typical politicians that want to come down that the general, hes a war hero. He served his country. Hes worked with issues of Mental Health at a level unseen in this country. And those are very important issues s and he wants to mix things up and hes going to go to washington and do that. You cant say by electing the same old democrats youll get a different result. We want a different result. Only way to do that is to bring a different system. Governor chris sununu, taking time to ans

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