relations. when it comes to stop and frisk. >> he, he was one of the originators of stop and frisk. >> he was one of the originat s originators. bill bratton was police commissioner in new york under rudolph, giuliani. long ago. then went on to los angeles. now has come back. but -- he, he along with mayor de blazio dedicated himself to trying to restore the relationship between -- the nypd and people of color. now he is stuck with this asp l appalling situation. frankly very hard to understand decision by the grand jury. it is understandable. he doesn't want to talk about that in particular. but he has got to deal with the fallout. he has got to deal with trying to restore this relationship. >> the trust. >> decision in staten island is going to do nothing but poison the relationship. >> i mentioned asked him, how to