>> back now with jay carney and carl bernstein. carl, what were they thinking? sony? >> i don't know. i don't know what they were thinking. it seems to me that they had china or russia made a movie that, that its biggest studio put out a movie, showed obama's head exploding and guts flying out. i think it would be reprehensible the way we view it. it doesn't show great judgment. i ser tonalcertainly believe in right to do it. part of the difficulty here. jay? >> we need to uphold their right. >> i think sony is clearly on its heels, they have been, laid to waste digitally by the hacker attack. a lot of embarrassing information has come out. i just think they must have decided the risk of some kind of