act like it is one side. >> and maybe that is because of you, ben. >> i am not saying that -- >> it is because of you, ben ferguson and not because you are white. >> and come on, now, marc. >> now ben -- >> that sis a whole other show. and now, let's talk about ferguson, because who would want this job as a police chief. and this is live now, in front of the ferguson police department and i want ded to show you that obviously, there are folks gathering there, and police officers setting up a shield around the department and what do you think of the resignation today? first ben and then marc? >> well, it is a step in the right direction, and it is a long time coming, and you have to have a new leadership role, and new people in leadership and bring in a whole lot of new cops to change it. >> marc? >> the they needed leadership, and this should have happened and the people need to select the next police chief. and if there is policing it sis