is that anywhere near you? >> reporter: i do not see that. i do not see people -- there are a lot of people here but i don't. you got ryan on the other side from me and jason behind him and miguel farther up the street. so maybe one of them is closer to it. we're trying to stay closer to the police so we can see exactly what they do. >> so reverend -- stand by chris. reverend owens, how can this be diffuse diffused? >> one of the things we asked the doj to provide us a system in place where they can monitor the conduct of the police as it relates to people's amendments' right to protest. i think this is what you're seeing a very small element, and i think this element is divided. there are those, as i see it who are attempting to move the crowd beyond the control of the police and say, it's over go