guns and shootings? hey, just because the crime issue gets a lot of play in other quarters, and i see it, doesn't mean it's not a worthy or legit issue. do we have the ability to put back on the screen right now the spike in crime and the pew data? vaughn, can you put up any that have to respond to this individual? okay. it's numbers-driven. this is not -- okay. take a look at the u.s. murder rate. and now tell me i'm just falling into some right wing echo chamber. i would be derelict in my duty if i didn't discuss this. what's the next social media? smerconish, the question seems like one that can be answered definitively with data. when that is the case, seeking opinions is kind of pointless unless the goal is to highlight political divisiveness. that's not your goal, is it, michael? no. i think i asked the appropriate questions, what's the impact of the pandemic, is this correlation or causation. what question would you have asked of my guest?