i will read it aloud so we can respond. what do we have? we don't have a choice who we are stuffed into a cabin with, says julie. you, obviously, agree with that point? >> yes. i agree with that point. and i think the same thing is true when you go to a restaurant, when you go to the theater, when you go outdoors -- when you go into some facility. you don't choose who they are. you don't know how good the ventilation is. although on airplanes it is good. you know, a lot of people are not good about wearing high-quality masks and keeping them over their nose and well sealed. >> look, it can be done. i have noted before the first time -- this will sound odd. the first time i was asked to show proof of vaccination was at a concert i went to. was it the most arduous of inspections? not really. i appreciated it and 40,000