every republican leader telling the base that this is a witch hunt, the base is gonna believe it's a witch hunt, because the people they trust are telling them that. almost everybody on that stage last night. >> i was gonna say. that six of eight raise their hand to say even if convicted would they still, not if charged, convicted. >> i think this is good political theater. at best. i think democracies fragile. i think the most cancers individual we've seen to democracy, his name is donald j trump, but i think that social media, 24 hour news cycles, i think all these things have contributed to the erosion of what we know to be democracy. and i don't think any of this really matters. i think the way you rid yourself of this cancer cancer is to beat them at the ballot box. i think you and i have joe biden versus donald trump and regardless of a guilty conviction that may or may not occur, a trial that may not remain out occur, any more indictments, or superseding indictments that may or may not occur.