certainly by this president. and i think we can conclude that president bush didn't do the best job either. >> you know, don, you can agree or disagree with john mccain's policies, and legislative efforts and what have you. if you want to address that i would suggest, you know, ask john mccain. but if you want to talk about john mccain as the prisoner of war and his service to his country then talk to orson or myself. we were there. we know what happened. and i cannot -- i cannot emphasize more the commitment that john had to the same goals that we all had. we were a unified group. we hung in together. we were committed to coming home and holding on to her principles. and under the most deplorable conditions. the harshest of conditions. we were treated despeckbly, even tortured. and it was extremely important to stick together, to be a member of that team, every doing his part. and john mccain, he did his part. he served honorably and you have