discriminated against kind of huddle together and the people, you know, in the main stream start viewing them suspiciously and minority is defensive and creates a cycle of segregation and mistrust and i've watched this, you know, you go to places like bosnia and places like iraq where people, communities used to live together and what happens is you fuel this kind of cycle of mistrust and it ends very badly. >> that's for you on intellect l because you travel the world. i haven't seen you or maybe i haven't read everything you've written but write about this personally, ever. >> you're exactly right. i've been writing for 25 years and i've never wanted to write as a indian american, as a muslim, a practicing, non-practices. to my mind, that stuff -- i want you to agree with me because i have good arguments, good facts,