picture that's going on here? >> well, does it square with reality that he's claiming that he doesn't know -- that he's changing his mind from one day to the next or from one hour to the next? well, it's irrational. the president has a history of a private businessman of trying to manipulate stocks with announcements and purchases. he knows how the market works. someone speculated last week that maybe he has figured that there is a way to profit from this. and today it was reported that a lot of ceos are selling their stock in publicly traded companies. >> i saw that. >> which is precisely what happened in 2007 and 2008 when the market really went into a tailspin. so the president knows all of this. i think both david and ryan are correct. i think he's a bser, but i also think he's a -- if you had a kid who did this past the ages when david's kids gave it up, you take them to be evaluated. this is a serious problem. >> yeah. >> that he seems so detached