dress up as someone who's your hero if they're another race. you just don't need the blackface. you need the makeup. it doesn't mean that, you know, denzel washington can't play don pedro in the movie "much ado about nothing," and it doesn't mean that a white actor can't play a historical black figure. white people have played martin luther king. it means that you have to be thoughtful about it and not reduce another culture to a caricature. >> tara, i know you want to get him, but that has to be the last word. but i do have to say this before we go. think about it however you want to think about it. when someone apologizes, wow. we don't -- we don't often see that here, especially a world leader who is saying, i should have known better, and i'm sorry. you can feel about it however you want, but to me, that does mean a lot. i got to go. thank you. we'll be right back. oh, governor gavin newsom responds to the president. i'm your cat. ever since you brought me home, that day. i've been plotting to destroy you.